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		<title>By: Fast Lane to Balkinization &#171; Owens Rhetoric</title>
		<link>http://owensrhetoric.com/2009/02/03/the-slaughtered-14th/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fast Lane to Balkinization &#171; Owens Rhetoric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] will be a relief after my own stab at that.  And on the problems that led to Cruikshank, see my quick review of Lane&#8217;s book on the matter.    [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will be a relief after my own stab at that.  And on the problems that led to Cruikshank, see my quick review of Lane&#8217;s book on the matter.    [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Goodman</title>
		<link>http://owensrhetoric.com/2009/02/03/the-slaughtered-14th/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Goodman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all,

    I am writing to inform you that the links I provided in Comment 4 (Dan Goodman  December 22, 2009 at 11:58pm) no longer work.  The new locations for them are:

____________

FOOTNOTE


The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327&lt;/a&gt;


Also,


A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331&lt;/a&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,</p>
<p>    I am writing to inform you that the links I provided in Comment 4 (Dan Goodman  December 22, 2009 at 11:58pm) no longer work.  The new locations for them are:</p>
<p>____________</p>
<p>FOOTNOTE</p>
<p>The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=327</a></p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=331</a></p>
<p>____________</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Goodman</title>
		<link>http://owensrhetoric.com/2009/02/03/the-slaughtered-14th/#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Goodman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all,

    I wish to state that the Supreme court, in the &lt;i&gt;Slaughterhouse Cases&lt;/i&gt;, held that because of the Fourteenth Amendment there were now two separate and distinct citizens under the Constitution of the United States; a citizen of the United States, under the Fourteenth Amendment and a citizen of the several States, under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1 [FOOTNOTE]:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“We think this distinction and its explicit recognition in this Amendment (the 14th Amendment) of great weight in this argument, because the next paragraph of this same section (first section, second clause), which is the one mainly relied on by the plaintiffs in error, &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;speaks only of privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, and does not speak of those of citizens of the several states.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; The argument, however, in favor of the plaintiffs, rests wholly on the assumption that the citizenship is the same and the privileges and immunities guaranteed by the clause are the same.” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 74.

And:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“In the Constitution of the United States, which superseded the Articles of Confederation, the corresponding provision is found in section two of the fourth article, in the following words: ‘The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;OF&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; the several States.’ ” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 75.

The last was later reaffirmed in &lt;i&gt;Cole v. Cunningham&lt;/i&gt;:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“The intention of section 2, Article IV (of the Constitution), was to confer on the &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;citizens of the several States&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; a general citizenship.” Cole v. Cunningham: 133 U.S. 107, 113-114 (1890).  

    The privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states are those described by &lt;i&gt;Corfield&lt;/i&gt;, cited in the &lt;i&gt;Slaughterhouse Cases&lt;/i&gt;.  This is reaffirmed in &lt;i&gt;Hodges v. United States&lt;/i&gt;:

&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;“In the &lt;i&gt;Slaughter House Cases&lt;/i&gt;, 16 Wall. 36, 76, in defining the privileges and immunities of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;citizens of the several States&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, this is quoted from the opinion of Mr. Justice Washington in &lt;i&gt;Corfield v. Coryell&lt;/i&gt;, 4 Wash. Cir. Ct. 371, 380.”  Hodges v. United States: 203 U.S. 1, at 15 (1906).

     So there are now two citizens under the Constitution of the United States.  One needs to find out information on both.  For a citizen of the United States that is easy.  Just about anywhere.  For a citizen of the several States one will have to begin here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;

____________


FOOTNOTE


The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882&lt;/a&gt;


Also,


A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868&lt;/a&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,</p>
<p>    I wish to state that the Supreme court, in the <i>Slaughterhouse Cases</i>, held that because of the Fourteenth Amendment there were now two separate and distinct citizens under the Constitution of the United States; a citizen of the United States, under the Fourteenth Amendment and a citizen of the several States, under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1 [FOOTNOTE]:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“We think this distinction and its explicit recognition in this Amendment (the 14th Amendment) of great weight in this argument, because the next paragraph of this same section (first section, second clause), which is the one mainly relied on by the plaintiffs in error, <i><b>speaks only of privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, and does not speak of those of citizens of the several states.</b></i> The argument, however, in favor of the plaintiffs, rests wholly on the assumption that the citizenship is the same and the privileges and immunities guaranteed by the clause are the same.” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 74.</p>
<p>And:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“In the Constitution of the United States, which superseded the Articles of Confederation, the corresponding provision is found in section two of the fourth article, in the following words: ‘The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens <i><b>OF</b></i> the several States.’ ” 83 U.S. 36 (1873), page 75.</p>
<p>The last was later reaffirmed in <i>Cole v. Cunningham</i>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“The intention of section 2, Article IV (of the Constitution), was to confer on the <i><b>citizens of the several States</b></i> a general citizenship.” Cole v. Cunningham: 133 U.S. 107, 113-114 (1890).  </p>
<p>    The privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states are those described by <i>Corfield</i>, cited in the <i>Slaughterhouse Cases</i>.  This is reaffirmed in <i>Hodges v. United States</i>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;“In the <i>Slaughter House Cases</i>, 16 Wall. 36, 76, in defining the privileges and immunities of <i><b>citizens of the several States</b></i>, this is quoted from the opinion of Mr. Justice Washington in <i>Corfield v. Coryell</i>, 4 Wash. Cir. Ct. 371, 380.”  Hodges v. United States: 203 U.S. 1, at 15 (1906).</p>
<p>     So there are now two citizens under the Constitution of the United States.  One needs to find out information on both.  For a citizen of the United States that is easy.  Just about anywhere.  For a citizen of the several States one will have to begin here:</p>
<p><a href="http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://citizenoftheseveralstates.webs.com/index.htm</a></p>
<p>____________</p>
<p>FOOTNOTE</p>
<p>The Effects of the Fourteenth Amendment on the Constitution of the United States</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=15882</a></p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>A Look At Corfield (On Citizenship)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868" rel="nofollow">http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=16868</a></p>
<p>____</p>
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		<title>By: The federalism of privileges and immunities &#171; Blahseblog</title>
		<link>http://owensrhetoric.com/2009/02/03/the-slaughtered-14th/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The federalism of privileges and immunities &#171; Blahseblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Association, and did so within a larger legal program to frustrate Radical Reconstruction.  (We mentioned, a while back, Charles Lane&#8217;s book on a sibling case, Cruikshank.  Also check Michael Ross&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Association, and did so within a larger legal program to frustrate Radical Reconstruction.  (We mentioned, a while back, Charles Lane&#8217;s book on a sibling case, Cruikshank.  Also check Michael Ross&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: slaughterhouse &#171; Blahseblog</title>
		<link>http://owensrhetoric.com/2009/02/03/the-slaughtered-14th/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slaughterhouse &#171; Blahseblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Association, and did so within a larger legal program to frustrate Radical Reconstruction.  We mentioned, a while back, Charles Lane&#8217;s good account.  The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, among other things, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Association, and did so within a larger legal program to frustrate Radical Reconstruction.  We mentioned, a while back, Charles Lane&#8217;s good account.  The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, among other things, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: to pursue a lawful occupation &#171; Blahseblog</title>
		<link>http://owensrhetoric.com/2009/02/03/the-slaughtered-14th/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[to pursue a lawful occupation &#171; Blahseblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Posted by Andrew under constitutional law &#160;  With the Slaughter-House Cases recently in mind, it will be interesting to follow the Institute for Justice&#8217;s new case against Boston [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Andrew under constitutional law &nbsp;  With the Slaughter-House Cases recently in mind, it will be interesting to follow the Institute for Justice&#8217;s new case against Boston [...]</p>
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